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Pillow Talk by StressedJenny Pillow Talk by StressedJenny
What do you think they are talking about? Captions please! I need a laugh.

Havn't drawn intimate arts for aaaaages! Feel a bit bashful XD I really liked Elle's face in this one, and Mias messy hair ^__^

EDIT:
This is old, look at my new Mias and Elle comic here: stressedjenny.deviantart.com/g…

Also suggested very eloquently by :iconandyj76: because this horse is definitely not getting up.
Frequently Voiced Demand (FVD) #1
This needs a mature tag
Tag your shit mature
This is porn and needs a filter


Hi, thank you for your opinion, expressed as a demand upon another artist. This picture was posted in July 2011, reported as "needs mature tag" and judged "Complaint invalid, no further action" in August 2011 (that's a long time ago!)

You might ask, "how can this be true?", when you are so convinced that you are right. Welcome to the world of moral relativism. You are entitled to your opinion, you are entitled to express that opinion, but in the context of deviantArt, that opinion has long ago been judged incorrect. Don't be surprised if you stir up a storm of negative comments when you reflog this long-dead horse.

You may be interested to note that the definition of "deviant" is "differing from the accepted norms of society". If you are the kind of person who likes to impose social norms on others, deviantArt may not be the right community for you.

Thanks for your time

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:iconvanuinfiltrator:
VanuInfiltrator Featured By Owner 2 hours ago  Hobbyist Writer
I just came here for the comments :popcorn:
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:iconminaandmiles:
MinaandMiles Featured By Owner 6 hours ago  New Deviant Hobbyist Artist
She said you got me pregnant he said I know.
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:iconfrozentokos:
FrozenTokos Featured By Owner 6 hours ago  New Deviant Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think she's asking about his eye shadow xD
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:iconcelestialjinx:
CelestialJinx Featured By Owner 6 hours ago   Filmographer
I don't see the issue with this. I don't get it. I think it's kinda sweet. Good job.
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:iconconej0s:
Conej0s Featured By Owner Edited 7 hours ago
man i respect you for putting up with this lol

i would be pretty embarrassed to have my four-year-old, anatomically incorrect shipping cheesecake on the front page. you've been taking this like a champ.

also, there's nothing "deviant" about a heterosexual couple laying in bed after vanilla sex, so acting like you're some sort of rebel autuerist in response to people who don't want to see this is... somewhat ironic.

but yeah this doesn't need a mature filter, just mature tags maybe. this is definitely a lot more tame than some of the other things i've seen feature on the front page.
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:iconstressedjenny:
StressedJenny Featured By Owner 7 hours ago  Professional Filmographer
I'm just sitting here in the Winchester, with a nice cold pint and waiting for all of this to blow over.
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:iconandyj76:
andyj76 Featured By Owner 6 hours ago
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
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:iconmetalwolfgemstone:
MetalWolfGemstone Featured By Owner 8 hours ago  Hobbyist General Artist
This is so beautiful! =3 I was wondering if perhaps I could use this as a reference to draw some of my characters in this pose? I will give you credit in the artist comments. :) However if you don't wish for this pose to be copied then I will respect your wish.
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:iconstressedjenny:
StressedJenny Featured By Owner 8 hours ago  Professional Filmographer
As long as there's credit I don't see why not :) Thanks for asking.
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:iconscaryscorie:
ScaryScorie Featured By Owner 8 hours ago  Student General Artist
Hehm no mature content?
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:iconandyj76:
andyj76 Featured By Owner 8 hours ago
Nope, because it doesn't need it. See the Frequently Voiced Demand in the description and this longer explanation

The artist has already declined to put a mature tag on this piece; dA have found that it doesn't need one (more on this later). 
Repeatedly asking someone to do something that they don't want to do, no matter how politely, is a form of bullying. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGoWLW…

I'm sure you're very upset, but that doesn't give you the right to remove the agency of others. You have agency in that you can choose whether or not to come to dA; the artist has agency over whether or not to add a Mature tag. This is the real world, sometimes you'll see things you don't want to see.


FYI, this is how deviantArt define "Mature Content" ( FAQ #220: What is Mature Content? )
Here are the relevant bits:

Mature Content Types
  • Nudity: If your work contains nudity, revealing the genitalia of a model or character or revealing a full female breast including nipples, you should assign this tag.
  • Sexual Themes: References to sex or overt sexuality, including sexually based humor. This category also covers images in which the character or model has taken a sexually provocative pose.
Now, let's see... does the above picture reveal genitalia? No. Does it reveal a full female breast including nipples? No. OK, so it's categorically not nudityaccording to dA
Does it contain references to sex or overt sexuality? Ah, the problem here is that pesky word overt. There is implied sexuality, but it's not overt.
OK, is this a sexually provocative pose? That's subjective, but I don't think most people would call this a sexual pose.

In conclusion, this does not meet the dA definition of "Mature Content"


Thanks for dropping by
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:iconscaryscorie:
ScaryScorie Featured By Owner 8 hours ago  Student General Artist
oh, okay then ^^' i thought you just forgot
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:iconandyj76:
andyj76 Featured By Owner 8 hours ago
No problem. As you may have gathered, it has been discussed (a bit) in the four years that this picture has been available :-)
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:iconscaryscorie:
ScaryScorie Featured By Owner 6 hours ago  Student General Artist
oh, sorry ^^'
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:iconandyj76:
andyj76 Featured By Owner 6 hours ago
No apology necessary. I think it's reasonable to think that this needs a mature tag, it just doesn't (under the rules of this site).
At least you've been pleasant and accepting of the situation :-)
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:iconwoodlily:
WoodLily Featured By Owner 10 hours ago
I have to say your art is really really really good but your attitude doesn't match the level of your art. You block people over differening points of view and it's such a shame. I hope that one day you can see the errors of your ways. You can't be like over sensitive for the rest of your life. That's no way to live. 
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:iconstressedjenny:
StressedJenny Featured By Owner 10 hours ago  Professional Filmographer
But I haven't blocked anyone. Very confused by this. 
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:iconwoodlily:
WoodLily Featured By Owner Edited 10 hours ago
Well I heard other wise. I just hope that you won't do that. I think your art is really good and constructive criticism is a good way to get even better. Either way I am sorry if I hurt you. I meant no harm by this and keep up the good work. 
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:iconandyj76:
andyj76 Featured By Owner 9 hours ago
If you check a bit further down this page, you can see some heated arguments.
The first one that shows up is Starry-Kingdom v. Mooneon
A little further on (about 3 or 4 pages), there's an epic blowout by TheEpicBLUpyro.

There was lots of animosity and blocking flying around there, but none of it was to do with :iconstressedjenny:, who has been largely letting the filter-bullies and her fans discuss it out
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:iconwoodlily:
WoodLily Featured By Owner 9 hours ago
Ah okay then. 
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:iconstressedjenny:
StressedJenny Featured By Owner 9 hours ago  Professional Filmographer
Hmmm, I've only blocked two or three people in all my years on deviantart and that was for constantly spamming with a negative attitude and practically bullying. I think that was at least four years ago. It's not something I do unless I really have to. 
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:iconwoodlily:
WoodLily Featured By Owner 9 hours ago
Ah okay then. I'm sorry for that. As for me I think I have only blocked like 10 people during the 4 years I have been on DA. Most of them were either bullies or people who spammed me. One person even tried to be me.
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:iconstressedjenny:
StressedJenny Featured By Owner 9 hours ago  Professional Filmographer
That sucks. I guess it's what people are gonna do though. It kinda hurts you heard that's the kind of thing I do and I have that attitude because it really isn't. 
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:iconwoodlily:
WoodLily Featured By Owner 9 hours ago
Yeah I am sorry about that. Now I know you don't do that. 
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:iconask-dt:
Ask-Dt Featured By Owner 10 hours ago
"Damn bruh wtf happened to your eye?"
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:iconzazzyleey:
Zazzyleey Featured By Owner 11 hours ago  Hobbyist Artist
such a cute couple <3
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:iconclocked-in:
Clocked-in Featured By Owner 12 hours ago  New Deviant Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow I can't believe a lump of fat started a war here. Can someone come pick up their kids please??
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:iconnuikkichan:
NuikkiChan Featured By Owner 12 hours ago  New Deviant
.m. I just appreciate the fact that this is well drawn...
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:iconyeenabun:
Yeenabun Featured By Owner 14 hours ago  Student Digital Artist
there isn't even any nipples or genitals showing what the hell
it's just sideboob
it's literally just a lump of fat on her chest chill out you big babies
'oH NO SIDETITTY I NEED A PRIEST AND AN EXORCISM IMMEDIATELY'
you have a right to be unsettled by this if you want to or have had experiences where this would trigger you
but otherwise
literally
shush
you are a baby
why are you guys even starting a war here on something so minimal when you could be doing something about the tsunami of uncensored dick pictures and rape fetishes and racism and Nazi portrayal that seems to never be noticed when it makes it's way onto the front page.
legit learn to lighten up
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:iconandyj76:
andyj76 Featured By Owner 17 hours ago
For those who came here to complain about the lack of Mature tag:
The artist has already declined to put a mature tag on this piece; dA have found that it doesn't need one (more on this later). 

Repeatedly asking someone to do something that they don't want to do, no matter how politely, is a form of bullying. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGoWLW…

I'm sure you're very upset, but that doesn't give you the right to remove the agency of others. You have agency in that you can choose whether or not to come to dA; the artist has agency over whether or not to add a Mature tag. This is the real world, sometimes you'll see things you don't want to see.


FYI, this is how deviantArt define "Mature Content" ( FAQ #220: What is Mature Content? )
Here are the relevant bits:

Mature Content Types
  • Nudity: If your work contains nudity, revealing the genitalia of a model or character or revealing a full female breast including nipples, you should assign this tag.
  • Sexual Themes: References to sex or overt sexuality, including sexually based humor. This category also covers images in which the character or model has taken a sexually provocative pose.
Now, let's see... does the above picture reveal genitalia? No. Does it reveal a full female breast including nipples? No. OK, so it's categorically not nudity according to dA
Does it contain references to sex or overt sexuality? Ah, the problem here is that pesky word overt. There is implied sexuality, but it's not overt.
OK, is this a sexually provocative pose? That's subjective, but I don't think most people would call this a sexual pose.

In conclusion, this does not meet the dA definition of "Mature Content"
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:iconchairofpoods:
ChairOfPoods Featured By Owner 18 hours ago  New Deviant Student General Artist
fuken hot
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:iconmoth7:
moth7 Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
...........................................is there honestly a war over her boobs Im
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:iconnlklta:
NlKlTA Featured By Owner 23 hours ago  Student Writer
Unfortunately, yes
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:iconanimeluvr4evr--nya:
Animeluvr4evr--NYA Featured By Owner 21 hours ago  Student General Artist
If their on DA they should be old enough to handle boobs.. especially when it's not even a full fledged boob shot
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:iconnlklta:
NlKlTA Featured By Owner 18 hours ago  Student Writer
I'll never know why people of any age react like that to fake, naked bodies. Not that they shouldn't, it just doesn't make sence to me unless you had a traumatic experence or you're disturbed by sex (Asexual). But Imma shut up before I lure more screaming banshies because seriously..
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DoktorrSketchy Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
  • First Report: Wed Apr 22 2015 21:24
    Case Closed: Thu May 14 2015 20:57
    Status: Invalid
    Comment: A member of staff has reviewed this report and has found no need for action either because either the concern was not considered valid or because the content of the deviation was considered to be within the limits defined by official policy.
It has been reported this year but still, no actions. So shut up guys.
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:iconaltean-prince:
Altean-Prince Featured By Owner Edited 1 day ago  New Deviant
>Someone says this doesn't need a mature content filter
>Grabs white knights and goes apeshit about it

Holy shit shut the fuck up and get some real air. If nudity bothers you or 'other people' then you should stop viewing the "What's hot" section. You're constant (and useless) comments is bumping this shit up so it can linger even longer. You don't have the right to force your beliefs and preferences all around dA and pressure artists. Ok, people are offended by this, that's unfortunate if the artist doesn't care. It's their choice and there's not any amount of bitching that can change their views. There's no need to be obnoxious and rude about it either, people. Fucking censorship went to shit after 2004. 

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So much for your complaints...now it's your fault it's still in other people's faces.
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:iconrosierose886:
rosierose886 Featured By Owner 1 day ago
>Someone says this needs a mature content filter
>Everyone goes crazy

God, someone just made a point, why do you people have to flip out about it? 
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:iconyorkshirepuddings:
YorkshirePuddings Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Student Digital Artist
to be fair, theres a lot of kids on the site who probably shouldnt see this but noone should force a mature warning on an art piece if the artist doesnt wanna put it there
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:iconswanbreeze:
Swanbreeze Featured By Owner 9 hours ago  Hobbyist
that's so true.
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:iconroguekelsey:
ROGUEKELSEY Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Really cute!
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:iconsandhawktime:
SandHawkTime Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Student General Artist
lol at the people wanting this to have a mature flag

keep talking kiddos.
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:iconrosierose886:
rosierose886 Featured By Owner 1 day ago
This deviation contains nudity.
Even an ADULT can be uncomfortable with this stuff.
It doesn't make them immature just for not wanting to see naked pictures.
Just cause they know what it is and have seen it before doesn't mean they WANT to.
As said by MaristoleTheErrors,
"You agree not to use the Service:
1.for any unlawful purposes
2.to upload, post, or otherwise transmit any material that is obscene, offensive, blasphemous, pornographic, unlawful, threatening, menacing, abusive, harmful, an invasion of privacy or publicity rights, defamatory, libelous, vulgar, illegal or otherwise objectionable;"
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:iconsandhawktime:
SandHawkTime Featured By Owner 18 hours ago  Student General Artist
um okay?
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:iconandyj76:
andyj76 Featured By Owner 19 hours ago
Nothing in Paragraph 2 mentions nudity
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:iconexionianartist:
ExionianArtist Featured By Owner 1 day ago
"Darling?"
"yeah?"
"I...I really needa poo''
''what?''
''I needa take a shit!''
''Then just go''
''i cant, you're crushin my nuts''
''Oh, my bad. Hehehe''
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Dusk-deerfluff Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Artist
  • First Report: Thu Jul 07 2011 16:14
    Case Closed: Mon Aug 01 2011 15:45
    Status: Invalid
    Comment: No action taken.
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:iconandyj76:
andyj76 Featured By Owner 1 day ago
Also: 
Case Log: Explicit Pornography
  • First Report: Thu Apr 23 2015 02:24
    Case Closed: Fri May 15 2015 01:57
    Status: Invalid
    Comment: A member of staff has reviewed this report and has found no need for action either because either the concern was not considered valid or because the content of the deviation was considered to be within the limits defined by official policy
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:iconpurpie-guy:
PurpIe-Guy Featured By Owner 2 hours ago  Hobbyist General Artist
How is it pornography though..?
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:iconshekhargabhale:
Shekhargabhale Featured By Owner 1 day ago  New Deviant
Hi
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